0000025084 00000 n When readers choose to buy our independently chosen editorial picks, we earn affiliate commissions that support our work. I'm not a hydraulic expert, but the point is to get the air out - that's why you bleed from the lowest point on an intial installation. Bn DaA=Qe]DB@vdw\u=W Mulching and Watering by Cturtle Feb 5th, '21, 03:09, Post The reason you turn the wheel slowly is if you don't the air will become emulsified in the oil and not float up as it passes through the reservoir. As the oil passes through the reservoir air bubbles float up into the reservoir where they stay. 0000016428 00000 n endobj Florida Refill, repressurize and pump the air out by exercizing the wheel until it feel okay. Arizona Steering cylinders will be bled one at a time on multi-engine boats. If you removed the helm pump you should loosen both srews on the lock valve near the rudders. 1. Always held pressure. 0000019169 00000 n To determine which way to turn the wheel loosen one of the nuts and rotate the steering wheel. Delaware 5 0 obj Steering system by andiamo Tue, 04/28/2015 - 09:50 : 3 : 1,379 : by Thoward Fri, 05/29/2015 - 17:52 : Normal topic: hynautic steering systems by Blackfin Mike Mon, 05/27/2013 - 21:12 : 10 : 3,571 : by PICSWG Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:08 . Check the sight glass on the side of the reservoir and top off if necessary. % 1973 B28 FBC/2007 4LHA STP's - "Phantom Duck" - Hull "BER 00794 1172", Ive been told ATF makes steering a bit stiff, but then again steering with. 2Pcs/Set Boat Bleed Kit Filler Kit For Seastar Hydraulic Ste2Pcs/Set Boat Bleed Kit Filler Kit For Seastar Hydraulic Ste::::black Oregon 0000019467 00000 n Bleeding and debugging hynautic steering system. the relief valve and the cylinder.In some Hynautic systems the relief valve has been mounted directly to the bottom of the reservoir. Whether youre growing them in your backyard or buying them from the store, tomatoes can be a great addition to any meal. Labrador 0000019439 00000 n -------- Alabama ), U-Flex, Hy-Drive, IMCO, Latham, etc? Northern Territory Gardening is a great way to spend time outdoors and get in touch with nature. Ray. Lower station works fine. User Tag List. In the Forum, choose the Index tab. If the cylinder is not equipped with bleeders, crack open the fitting connections. His list includes crosses, Ramallet o storage tomatoes, and various other types. Time will tell. Love it follow up is given. when a pair of engine steering cylinder hoses are connected together with the flare union. There is likely a little entrapped air, it took me forever to get this system bled, I thought I was done, and I had to re do both helms several more times because of the fluid I lost while rebuilding the helm. Step 2. commercial fishing boats. Myself and my Mechanic friend are at a loss as to what is going on. Massachusetts Colorado Your steering system is not power steering. % Hi Jarod, Thanks for the video it was very clear and easy to follow. Great video. Remember, the helm unit is the pump, the cylinder is the destination of the hydraulic fluid/pressure. Is there pressure on the cylinder? Later it will separate and float to the highest point. Alaska Topic: Bleeding Hynautic hydraulic steering: wwbach: posted 07-10-2005 05:02 PM ET (US) . Without the bleeder-Tee's it may a bit more of a mess with the fluid escaping from the hose connections at the cylinder. I had a miserable time bleeding the system this helm came from, I had to bleed each helm (there was 2 on this boat), as well as the cylinder and all the lines, it took several attempts going through the bleeding instructions before it would cooperate. My friend's unit also has bleeder valves on the steering cylinder that attaches to the rudders. SeaStar Hydraulic Steering Fluid can be used in Hynautic, BayStar and BayStar Plus steering systems. Going to check the that the hoses are correct tomorrow. Mine has never had issue in 20 years. Turning the wheel either way numerous times doesnt seem to do anything. You have to turn the wheel both ways multiple turns to get the air bubbles worked up to the highest pump fitting. Carl or someone with Hynautic steering is best to answer the proper pressure question. High Quality: High . Maybe, it may just end up pushing oil out of the other helm, but in theory, Im not sure in practice, but in theory the check valves should keep the oil where it needs to be, but I would be incredibly careful just in case those check valves dont hold and you end up losing steering while under way. Search below to locate Port Captains near your destination. as just mentioned above the ram is at the rear of the boat, attached to the tie rod that is attached to the tiller arms,,it looks like a horizontal shock absorber with 2 black poly lines attached to it and does the job of moving the rudders,,,these lines are not the ones to loosen during bleeding,,,the bleed valves are on the opposite side of the ram's cylinder.. Keep pressure on the wheel while your assistant checks all the hydraulic connections and fittings for leaks. is at the lowest point but even if it does the air will tend to find its way up where you can use your charging valve bleeding procedure to remove it. Hynautic Steering Seal Kits (Seastar) $61.66 $ 61. I could actually hear the air hiss as it exited the relief valve when I turned the wheel. Will pull unit for a rebuild. endobj H-20 series fluid leak. Your email address will not be published. by Ironworker Feb 5th, '21, 18:39, Post A small amount of air will be trapped at the high point in each sender head. 0000040042 00000 n Installed two new cranking batteries and on my 1979 28' FB and engines fired up beautifully. 0000030358 00000 n The H-21 helm is a heavy-duty three-line helm used in Hynautic big boat systems. http://www.boatsteer.com/assets/Hynauti ctions.pdf. Im not sure what would happen if you pressurized the system and then cracked each line at your top helm after the rebuild, but I suspect it would be very messy, but it might get a lot of air out, which may make the bleeding process far simpler, Im honestly not sure. or does it bind up turning to the left? Web seastar steering (front mount pivot cylinder) 48: Web first outboard hydraulic steering system from seastar solutions; Mechanical Steering Sh8050 Helm, Cable & Kit Length 'Y' (Ft) (M) Seastar Part No No 7 2.13 Ssc13107 Txssc13107. Thank you for the nice video. x_|M(@Q8E8N"Nr;;CR)7w;X,Dgyg]1nEYJ&MUfB%fz-iO_^/V)*Y2.2Q.w]lwL%$_Y]r^{"ybk7 New Jersey G2 quick connect fittings are modified for better clearance in confined spaces, an absolute must for Yamaha 4.2L and 3.3L F200 to F300 applications. Joined Aug 3, 2003 Messages 122. I use automatic transmission fluid. 0000041588 00000 n Idaho If the gauge only shows a couple of psi, get a bicycle pump and pump it up a little and your problem will be solved. The boat is prowling and when I turn the steering wheel, I hear the bearings. The most ubiquitous hydraulic steering system for outboard-powered boats is made by SeaStar Solutions (previously known as Teleflex). North Carolina I second what Iron Worker said. by Tavis Feb 5th, '21, 18:55, Post check to see if your system has an accumulator (aluminum tank about 4" in diameter and 7" high with an air connection on top) if it does, just add a little fluid at the port near your upper helm. If they move easily, turn the wheel and see if its still tough to steer. You will need a bicycle pump to pressurize the system. Application Bleed Kit - For Seastar hydraulic steering systems. Yes, Chanse, the only difference being that with Ouzo you don't seem to bother with that stiffness, to be honest nothing seems to bother you after a certain quantity! Custom bridge tube connects bleed ports on steering cylinder. 0000025062 00000 n Turning the wheel fast in one direction is actually pumping the oil out at the engine side. Manual pumps (that is what is attached to your steering wheel) turn too slow to cavitate or aerate the system. 0000034627 00000 n BTW, I recommend using Aircraft Hydraulic fluid. I changed my o ring on my fly bridge steering. Teleflex Capilano works similarly using a device called a Uniflow valve. Those screws are 'staked' and not supposed to be removed just backed out some for bleeding. Arkansas Utah Tasmania Victoria I reattached the helm, bled the lines for any air but no rudder movement at all! Remove the bolt (s) that attach the steering cylinder to your engine, outdrive, or rudder and attempt to turn your engine, outdrive, or rudder by hand. Isn t that wrong ? These utilized a power steering pump that was generally mounted on the port engine. by Yannis Feb 7th, '21, 05:35, Post Disclaimer: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. The bleed valves are pinned just open them and spin the wheel then tighten. The reservoir or a block near the cylinder has hex nuts. I wouldn't advise vigorous turning as you will emulsify the air in the oil and it will not bubble out of the reservoir as easily. by Tony Meola Feb 7th, '21, 21:22, Post Your email address will not be published. Correct any leaks that are found. Fill & Pressurize The System To bleed Hynautic steering, use a light viscosity hydraulic oil that meets the aircraft hydraulic fluid spec Mil-H-5606. Australian Capital Territory by Chanse Feb 6th, '21, 11:09, Post This should take care of the problems you are having. South Dakota Page 2 Bleed the Engine Steering Cylinders During the cylinder bleeding process remember to keep the fill bottle at the helm topped off so air is not allowed back into the system. End of tube includes fitting that screws into the helm pump. Compare prices & save money on Boats, Kayaks & Boating Equipment. `]Lw4R%!*C*S&/(|;x3l?cJ=q^" 66]e_+gT~x $77.00 $ 77. Kit includes hose with screw cap which fits SeaStar or equivalent oil bottles. Is there no way of purging air at that station after I replace seals as per your video since it is at the highest point, without having to bleed the entire system? For the steering system go to the Sea Star web site and find the instructions to bleed your hynautic steering system. Teleflex, Hynautic (which one? The meeting place for all Classic Bertram Owners and Fans, Moderators: CaptPatrick, mike ohlstein, Bruce, Post ~1986 There are two steering stations, one on the bridge, and one up in the tower. Try loosening the bleeds and getting some fluid through the helm. If they still have those sheets it'll make the explanation very easy. 0000041273 00000 n Depressurize if the leak has done so already. New South Wales 4a,'az| !u"5B]AP1uYm -ZYx 1L8V6=SjKs$C5%l^xP9C+|nKD7zut}[]'Eqr/ I replaced the seals and reassembled the unit. Got to West marine and pick up 2 or 3 qts of hynautic steering fluid. Yes, I do have the pressure tank. by machmike Mon, 09/18/2017 - 12:08 : 1,243 : by . Iowa This reservoir doesnt have the bleeder block but I know what you mean. 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