klx 351 vs drz400
Well I am considering adding another ride to the stable to go along with the 2 KLX's. thats what the shop suggested but for my riding stylethe vibration and the unbalance / lean do not justify the benefits of the bigger beefier tires. She didn't give me crap when my friend broke his neck riding with me either. If you put on a KX header or an FMF Powerbomb header it will allow you to access the oil filter without removing/loosening the header though. We have the E model, a more off road biased version which has higher performance, approximately 48hp at the crank and is slightly lighter. Lets take a closer look. Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Trident450, Aug 2, 2015. Unless you mod it, beyond intake/exhaust & fueling. No, I mean I paid a TOTAL of 4600. Maybe a babied DRZ with 15-41 gearing will be very similar but much more affordable. It is an awesome bike and I still have it! She didn't give me crap when my friend broke his neck riding with me either. Op, is your question just what bike is more reliable? Visit this link for instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser. We use cookies to improve your experience on this website and so that ads you see online can be tailored to your online browsing interests. Kozo Saito. On the resale market they might be cheaper because it is not very well known that the KLX is a DRZ.even among some KLX owners. The price difference is close to $3K. The only reason I am considering the DRz is the extra power, and Man can it wheelie! We use data about you for a number of purposes explained in the links below. Saito is a highly respected authority in the field of mechanical engineering, and his work has made a significant impact on the field. I have a KLX300 and I've ridden my friends DRZ400E. Nope - same same. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada The KLX is much better geared and just chugs along in 1st gear on tight trails which the DRZ won't do as well when geared to do 55mph at cruise. Would you like to ride with me or rent with me? Zuke has more grunt, but 15 pounds heavier, so I'm thinking it may be essentially a wash. When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission.Copyright ThumperTalk, Inc. - All rights reserved.ThumperTalk is a registered trademark. I understand there was a 2004 . Press J to jump to the feed. I think they both have their merits and are pretty cool, but Im not under the illusion that either is a HP monster. You are probably correct. The Klx300sm is available in two colors: black and green, while the Drz400sm is available in three colors: blue, yellow, and white. $3k isnt worth the minor difference in performance. It has a six-speed transmission and weighs in at about 315 pounds. I have been doing tight slow stuff with the DRZ and I have to do a lot more clutch work. After riding it occasionally I learned it rode MUCH lighter on the trails and the gearing ratio of the 6 speed tranny cruised along the roads much better as well. The DRZ400 is a bit more powerful and has a wider range of gears, making it better suited for open terrain. 2023 ft. RotoMoto, Why So Many Factory Busts These Days? Ok, what about "charging OUT of corners?" The suspension will be a lot better on the DRZ too. Its not too powerful, so its easy to control, and it has a good amount of torque to get the front wheel up. I used to have the z geared really low for the gnarly tight pacific northwest single track I ride. In your opinion, do you think the KLX is worth the extra $3K? Justin Brayton Weighs In | PulpMX Show 540. I'm a big fan of honda XR's, so I definitely feel ya. And you'll inevitably come to the conclusion that the KLX is better! | Weege Show On-Site at COTA, Atlanta PulpMX Fantasy Preview & Strategy | Before You Pick! It's a known fact that the KLX is faster than the DRZ because it's green. Post Reply BunduBasher Boodoo-Bash-eRRR i just know im switching back to some other street tire shortly. Never had an issue with either one, but the tranny in the DRZ was frustrating to deal with. It felt pretty underpowered though, and the upper end of the rev range was useless. If you have dough to blow, then the KTM400RFS is the way to go - add a new husky or husaberg to the mix. Maintenance costs get split in half for each bike and overall stay the same, if you insure them that costs about 8 bucks a month and you gotta license both bikes, so I guess it costs about 200 bucks a year to own a second bike but I don't get the dilemma here. $9k is pretty expensive for what it is, but what are ya gonna do? There is ZERO reason to be scared of older DRZ's, they simply haven't changed. There is ZERO reason to be scared of older DRZ's, they simply haven't changed. That's some excellent reliability you got there. BTW what kind of gas mileage are you getting with that big bore kit? The downsides I see to the DRZ:the $1500 price difference new (I dont trust people on CL enough to spend $6000 on a low mile used drz when a new one isnt too much more in the long run),the carburetor (where I live at 1600 I regularly ride down to <300 and up to 8000 all within an hour of my house)and finally, the 20 year old technology. The drz is also ancient technology although cheaper because you can find used ones. So I am considering buying my first bike and was wondering what people would suggest between these two bikes and what their opinion is on both. Since you're a bigger dood, I'd say go test a Husky 701 SUMO. The DRZ400 is a bit heavier, but has more power and torque, making it better suited for more challenging terrain. Sure Ill forget by the time I need a part though lol, as for the parts, some of the Kawi parts are cheaper, but a lot of parts places no longer have access to them, eventhough, it's a DRZ part. Adapting your riding style may not make any sense at all. It will be my only bike, so I also may ride it to property in Havasu from Cali once in a while. It is the sensible choice though, so Im kind of torn on the decision. : 21:27 Since used prices are approaching new prices, I'd go new. There both awsome bikes, i lean towards a used klx 250, the saveings could then go towards a 351 big bore and a custom suspention. Klx. Would I be disappointed in its flickability? rsteiger , Sep 23, 2012 The CRF300L, on the other hand, is powered by a 286cc single-cylinder engine. A 2007 DRZ, and 2010 KLX. Its not as powerful as the KLX, but its still a very capable bike. heres some pics and clearance shots of front and rear left and right. Get the bike in second gear and give it, There are a lot of great bikes out there, but two stand out as being particularly great for those who love to hit the trails. In the US the KLX was only offered for a 2003 model run. http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/972833-wide-ratio-gears-but-no-six-speed/, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. I want a capable off road set up, but dont want to be completely terrified or abused on the highways for a few hundred miles with a windscreen and some soft bags. So, which one is right for you? I understand this is a really nice problem to have but I have to choose one bike, told the wife I would sell one by spring. I may be a noob but I bounce well. Trim color is the only difference. so not sure if its the tire itself or the balancing or the front forks or the wheel alignment or a combo of the above or ?. Breaking In Our New Backyard! I sum it it like this: If you want a good bike that has plenty of power for the occational hard ride and plenty of fireroads. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. KLX is better for tight twisty (moto gymkhana), 125ish agility. The KLX just feels better on tight trails. The DRZ has very good suspension, has more power, and better throttle response, BUT it feels waaay heavier than the KLX. Im afraid of the damage a young guy can do in 5000 miles. Neither of these are going to satisfy that want. I used to have the z geared really low for the gnarly tight pacific northwest single track I ride. I prefer lighter SMs to bigger bikes ie bmws etc. '06 KLX250s with 351 kit installed over winter. Northern CA. Oh and Kawasaki parts are less expensive than Suzuki. Side-By-Side; Compare All Motorcycles NOW COMPARING. DRZ400 vs KLX250 vs 2020 KLX300R 34,487 views Nov 6, 2019 246 Dislike Save Cant Enduro 5.6K subscribers Would you like to ride with me or rent with me? ). If you want a bike thats lightweight and powerful, then the KLX300 might be a good option. ), Nope, they aren't $9000. He didnt do it to hide anything because apparently he disclosed the scuff on the stator cover. :( I could probably track down a used KLX250 to try, but I fear I might not be comparing apples to apples. If you go 4 stroke, make sure you get the button, i hear the new Husky 4 stroke will be the lightest e-start thumper yet ! with 740. miles on it. I'm a big fan of honda XR's, so I definitely feel ya. Try to get a test ride on each one and see what you think. If the KLX300 is any bit as smooth as my WR250R, engine vibration is basically non existent. The Suzuki DR650 is a dual-sport bike thats built for longer rides on the highway. Suspension is not adjustable on the Honda. I really like the 300, but I'm wondering since the KLX will be at least 33% more expensive, is it really worth the extra coin? SuperAwesomeDOOD, The KLX has nearly 6k miles on it, with about 4k with the 351 kit. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. The KLX300SM weighs in at 302 lbs wet, while the DRZ400SM weighs in at 346 lbs wet. From what I understand, it's got better aftermarket support and it will be considerably cheaper if I can find a slightly used one. It is my first bike and I have it set up as a light weight ADV bike. Have you ever tried 15-41 gearing? Is her car parked on the street cause your bike is in her spot? Some features of this site require JavaScript. I remember seeing the kickers for 100 less than that. The stats say 33 HP and 21 lb-ft of torque for KLX and DRZ400 33 hp 26 torque. When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. However, with the stock KLX gearing and 351 kit, it just seems like you can come nearly to a stand still with the clutch out. Remove an arbitrary date and commit to selling one (if necessary?) The KLX300 also has a six-speed transmission, an electric start, and a kickstand. Which in your opinion would be the better overall bike? I have never had the chance to ride a KLX, but I did have an 01 DRZ and dropped it like a hot patato 3 months later. First, you can adjust the preload on the rear shock. She didn't even give me crap when I got T boned by a pickup in town last year! If it wasnt for people like you. I've owned, and put roughtly 10k on each bike. Why pay a premium for someone else's problem? Kozo Saitos work has helped shape the field of mechanical engineering. First owner tipped it over in his driveway and broke his leg. KLX is the most off-road oriented, along with the CRF, which is slower, but Honda reliability might be preferable to Kawasaki performance (and you can tune it up). A sub all about riding dual sports or dual sporting rides. lalahg. There are a few key differences between the KLX300 and DRZ400. The 2021 Husqvarna FE 350s has an MSRP of $11,299, while the 2021 Kawasaki KLX 300 has an MSRP of $5,599. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. It seems it is a popular question as of late. I would still be riding the stock, somewhat weak bike. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Which bike do you guys think would be more reliable long term? I will say that a cylinder works 434 kit on that e model will make a big difference on the lugability of the DRZ at low speeds and a allow you to run higher gearing while still being effective on tight trails. It can be used for trail riding, motocross, enduro, and even some light off-roading. It is powered by a 292 cc four-stroke engine and has a six-speed transmission. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. She doesn't care either, if we're not going broke, Hell yeah! Thanks for your reply! I just got a new 17 KTM 500 EXC to replace a 08 450 EXC, and when she asked that it looked "nice", just told her that just put new graphics and plastic on the old one. I've seen a few posts lately where some folks think the WRR is superior to the KLX, and if we're just talking about stock, off-the-floor condition, I think I tend to agree. It just didn't do it for me. I just dig the looks of the cammo KLX over the rally. Eventually, I learned to carry more speed and keep my feet on the pegs to allow the suspension to do the work. Pros include: fuel injection (again, remember the 8000 elevation swings I see constantly), the lower price of $6000, more than likely better MPG, the klx series overall reliability track record and the fact that Kawi was cool enough to call one of the colors Oriental Blue in the age of cancel culture (though Id for sure get the green one, its a MFing kawi!). Great question Trog! I agree, the stats are similar: KLX 33hp, 21 tq and DRZ 33hp 26tq. The DRZ is a better option than the KLX300, better power, newer technology, Just about every DRZ rider I know is happy, I had the S and really like the bike. We use data about you for a number of purposes explained in the links below. Hes the second owner. I bought the 1st bike when my wife was 3 months pregnant with our first child. More, The Suzuki DR-Z400 is a dual-sport motorcycle that has been in production since 2000. Additionally, the DRZ400 has great suspension and is very reliable. I wish I could. Its been around for longer, and its reliability is legendary. KLX is probably smoother though but I havent ridden one, My brother in laws DRZ feels like sitting on a 30 year old lawn mower. So currently there are 3 versions of the DR-Z400. October 15, 2019 in DRZ400/E/S/SM. Try to get a test ride on each one and see what you think. Kozo Saito is a mechanical engineer who is currently the Tennessee Valley Authority Professor in Mechanical Engineering and also the Director of the Institute of Research for Technology Development at the University of Kentucky. Thanks in advance! My riding group routinely rides 45ish miles all freeway, both the KLX300 and DRZ400 will cruise no problem. It's the old motor with FI. Heres a closer look at the Kawasaki KLX300 vs the Suzuki DR650: She didn't even give me crap when I got T boned by a pickup in town last year! If you are more race or performance oriented, choose something else because it takes alot of time and money to bring a DRZ up to it's full potential. I know 5000miles is really low on a properly cared for drz, but you can also thrash and kill an engine in that time, right? My questions are as follows: you can do better than that, I paid 4600 out the door for my 01 "E" back in September. Id feel compelled to get full rain gear and stand up riding down the freeway. JavaScript is disabled. The dealer is at $7500 plus assembly, delivery, tax, etc Ill be at $9000. Unless it's been abused, a 2010 is as good as a 20upper teens. Huge E-Bike Jumps!! Plus they are 50 state street legal. The stats say 33 HP and 21 lb-ft of torque for KLX and DRZ400 33 hp 26 torque. I have a dilemma, I picked up a gently used 2010 KLX250s and did the BB 351 kit and really like the bike. There is a 5000 mile used one for $5000 with a full yoshi carbon exhaust. Posted October 15, 2019. you and most of the rest of the DRZ-owning world. It seems it is a popular question as of late. I doubt it has more than 1,500. miles on it honestly. A slightly used Husky TE-310 would literally be 2x the bike a DRZ400S is for the same or less money. Hi GSC. Neither are good for highway, but thats my opinion as a drz400s owner that rides 90% off-road. 2021 KLX300s vs. DRZ400s - YouTube 0:00 / 18:57 2021 KLX300s vs. DRZ400s 49,337 views May 2, 2021 744 Dislike Share Save KC Outside 1.84K subscribers Putting the bikes head to head, see. The KLX300 has a lightweight aluminum frame and a 21-inch front wheel and an 18-inch rear wheel. Don't worry guys, I am not a battered husband ? Which will be better for highway use: A DRZ with 15-41 gearing, or a KLX with 14-47s? But how do they compare to each other? OP didn't say that. Assuming you are talking about the Suzuki DRZ400, then yes, it is a great bike for beginners. A 2013 with 5k is lucky to bring 3500-4000 here. I'd pick the DRZ, a few mods and it's a really good motor. Or is it better to stick with the old school dual sports?Merch. Nope - same same. My prayers were answered! I have a KLX300 and I've ridden my friends DRZ400E. I found a pretty good deal on a 2005f650gs with really low miles. What was posted was "told the wife I'd sell one". Husqvarna FE 350s : Kawasaki KLX 300 : You Might Also Consider: . Heres a step-by-step guide to help you wheelie your DRZ400. We use cookies to improve your experience on this website and so that ads you see online can be tailored to your online browsing interests. Right? The KLX rear shock is a higher quality unit with a piggyback reservoir and rebound-damping adjustment; its performance compared to the CRF shock means the whole motorcycle handles more accurately and securely when you start upping the pace through the bumps: If you're an aspiring offroad racer, your choice is already made. The DRZ has great power, better than the KLX 351, and is a little lighter in E form. I'm gonna say rider preference then. What's it like? I weigh a bit over 200, experienced dirt rider, average street rider. 2002! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Privacy Policy. I want to do the Colorado BDR next year and put about 4K miles on the bike a year. Plus, (vanity alert!) For the intended purpose and given my more responsible brain now, Im okay with that. The WR250R also has, Your email address will not be published. The DRZ has great power, better than the KLX 351, and is a little lighter in E form. The DRZ is a good choice. Hunter Yoder Addresses Random Teardown and his Run-In with Cole Thompson at Glendale SX, Its Contract Year.. I struggled with the same thing when I bought my drz new in 06. It has a reliable engine that is easy to maintain and is very versatile. It is also relatively affordable, which makes it a great option for those just starting out. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I would go with the more modern, fuel injected machine if it were me. It was hard to sell the DRZ, but I did and set the KLX up for me. I want to be able to grow into it, keep it, and not have to upgrade. Its powered by a 650cc four-stroke engine that produces 47 horsepower. By Out of interest the KLX parts on Partzilla a more cost effective than the DRZ parts - all fit of course. Those are crazy expensive prices compared to the midwest. Thats not my intent, just having fun calling them turds. Suzuki DR650 Dontcallmejosh, It is powered by a 398 cc (24.1 cu in), liquid-cooled, single-cylinder, DOHC, four-stroke engine. Hi Ben. (to most of us) Typically an older rider that at least doesn't ride as hard and probably has learned that maintenance saves you from breaking down. My 2001 E has never let me down and is as solid and clean as most 2015 bikes. Hey guys, new to the forum, but been lurking a while. They really went budget minded on the klx suspension. He is also a published author. For more information, please see our Kawasaki KLX300 KLX300sm: $6000, fuel injected, 6 speed. Who breaks their leg tipping over in the driveway? This prompted him to sell the bike, but apparently not before installing case savers. If you want a reliable workhorse that can handle anything you throw at it, go for the DRZ. That was the end of t. Op, is your question just what bike is more reliable?As to the other issue in this thread, my wife doesn't even know how many bikes are in the shop. Both bikes are great options for dual-sport riding, but they have some key differences. The Kawasaki KLX300 is a lightweight dual-sport bike thats perfect for tight trails and off-road riding. Are the wheels balanced? Hi Ross. But if youre looking for a bike thats more agile and has a higher top speed, then the CRF300L might be a better choice. Nope. Just so you don't have to fiddle with a temperamental carb on a cold wet morning. Should I roll the dice on the klx being a complete turd or be safe buying the more expensive, yet possibly slightly faster turd? But I always noticed the extra horsepower and torque. The KLX 300 has a dry weight of 102 kg and a wet weight of 112 kg. While DRZ isnt, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. If youre looking to lower your DRZ400, there are a few things you can do. I may be a noob but I bounce well. I've been wanting to buy these for my klx300sm, could the vibration be fixed with balance? Both of these bikes are great for both on and off-road riding. Just curious, but why rule out the Honda 300 rally? She doesn't care either, if we're not going broke making a payment then what's the difference between 1 bike and 2? I randomly bought the DRZ to flip and just liked it. I do everything from Colorado singletrack to camping trips with it. It has a seat height of 835 mm and a fuel capacity of 11 litres. Very cool and thanks for the info and the review. KLX is still better IMHO. Or is it better to stick with the old school dual sports?Merch:https://teespring.com/stores/jhmotorclubStay Up to Date:Instagram: JHMotorClubMy brother's channel, JH Motorsport: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyb3BeWc-JgLw_CumJka7dQChapters:Intro: 0:00WR250R and DRZ400 Overview, what we know about the KLX300: 0:48First Swap onto the WR250R: 2:42First Impressions of the DRZ400: 4:37Talking KLX300 vs. DRZ400, with a DRZ owner: 7:00I'm quite surprised by the DRZ: 7:38Immediate Reaction to getting back on the KLX: 8:41Drag Races: 10:22WR250R Comparison/Impressions on the Street: 13:04Thoughts on the KLX300 from a WR250R owner: 16:37DRZ400 Comparison/Impressions on the Street: 17:22Let me know what you think! Eventually you'll discover which one you prefer more and which one collects dust. Cookie Notice March 5, 2021 in SuperMoto. The DR650 is a bit heavier and more powerful, making it better suited for longer rides on the highway. Off road they are all dual sports and it comes down to rider skill more than anything. By continuing to browse our site you agree to our use of data and cookies. Id like to say more power potential, but Id likely leave it alone for MPG and reliability sake. DRZ400sm: $7500, carburated, 5 speed. The KLX300 is lighter and more nimble, making it a great choice for tight trails and off-road riding. Haha I'm trying to justify the extra expense. In your case it sounds like you have a bike that meets your needs already. The bike has a dry weight of 128 kg (282 lb). PulpMX Show 541 Cooper Webb, Jordon Smith & Colt Nichols with Kris Keefer & Randy Richardson, Weege Show: Chatting with Sexton After A Breakthrough Win, Why is MotoGP Huge? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. It has a five-speed transmission and weighs in at just under 300 pounds. Ain't broke, don't fix it. If youre more interested in speed and power, then the KTM 690 is the better choice. What would you do? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Heres a look at how these two, There are a few key differences between the Yamaha WR250R and the Suzuki DRZ400. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Now, I'm back at 16/44 gearing on the same trails with far less clutch work. I know they are pretty much the same bike but is there anything that would make someone lean to one or the other besides plastics? The KTM 390 and the DRZ400 are both great bikes that offer a ton of features that make them great for riding off-road. But, wait until you ride one(I picked up my 701, for not much more, in 2018.). Both were set up with common jetting and perfomance mods. 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