That is the fuckin' ride. I dont know how thats going to feel. We have a freedom to walk down the street and meet people. That was probably cut more around the time of Greatest Hits in 1993, but it fits in. So that was the perspective I had immediately. In a world of headlines, this is going to be a big one. It really came out very intense, at times remorseful, at times angry but he helped the book immeasurably. I think life is different at that altitude. But they're in it for a different ride. In Pettys interviews with Zanes, he was as forthright and honest as he is in his songs, talking about his abusive father, his failed marriage, and his heroin use. So the core values are that I'm really comfortable with it, and I always was. You just have to be man enough to hear it, rather than keep trying to change it. And he was still on that tour. They preferred the punkier numbers, like Even the Losers and Refugee, to the Byrds-ier T.P. He's like, cool looking, great bass playing, beautiful soul nothing burned him! We both started smiling at one point and went, We got something here. It works really well with him. Yes. Id never learned anyone elses parts., He started going over the material at his home studio, and he turned to longtime drummer buddies Kenny Aronoff and Gregg Bissonette for advice. I said, Im probably losing it, I dont know. He said, When The Eagles broke up, I was thirty-three. But it's wonderful to be in a band, if I have to leave somebody with a thought: it's wonderful to be in a band, even if it's just for a short period of time. Very cool @DanRH. Im suddenly in this room holding a magazine. Stan Lynch is really an overlooked player in rock. I have the slang and the cadence and the understanding of how those songs are supposed to be translated. I reintroduced myself. I said, How do you digest two albums worth of material? They went, Thats Wednesday for me. Bissonette was going, You chart them out. I think I have some Tom nuances in my voice. The band loudly declared their love for Petty at their shows. [1] Early years [ edit] Lynch was born in Cincinnati, [2] Ohio, U.S., and moved to Gainesville, Florida, in the early 1960s. There's actually channels for this. Zanes, now fifty, was telling the tale the other day, while ducking out of the rain for coffee at Benvenuto Caf, in Tribeca. There was a lot of miscommunication and many immature sh*ts going down. I cant tell you whats in it or not in it. Heres what hes acknowledging: That a warts-and-all portrait doesnt throw you into the gutter. Hes just not a self-promoter. You have left the Del Fuegos. And I said "Hey man, it must be fun working with so-and-so", and he goes, "Yeah, thank God I sold a shitload of records 'cause now I can hang around and make records till the money runs out!" So that guy who is hellbent on keeping things together, because that is who he is, keeps his band together. Great attitude, he knows how funny this shit is, he knows it's all Spinal Tap. Stan Lynch - Modern Drummer Magazine Features Stan Lynch It's been thirty years since he recorded with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. We grew up loving Tom Petty more than his contemporaries. Stan said no to the interview . What is important is your musical contribution, and to do your job. But the fact that these guys hung out with me for so fuckin' long is like - oh my God! What do you do when you lose inspiration for a period of time? He admitted acting wrong and didnt communicate with his bandmates properly. Now theres a book in itself.. Stan had never heard me sing before, and he was the main harmony singer with Tom. Now there's a book in itself." Any book about the fifty-two-year-old Lynch would surely be an entertaining, fairly hilarious read. Mike is a pivotal player in a previous life of mine. Collaboration is a whole other thing, you have to let the collaboration happen, and that's a wonderful lesson to learn. Sometimes I would hear stuff and it was just so sad. You keep this band together. You gotta find your crowd and then you gotta give it up to them a little too, you know; you can't force them to love you. Paper, rock, scissors!". Artists, Interviews [laughs] Like, to this day, 20-something years later. To that end, Stan opens up the treasure trove, eager to share his secrets for maintaining vitality and integrity in a business that can easily rob the unsuspecting of both. MD: The Heartbreakers worked with a unique mix of producers over the years. Unless there's other people that recognize it, that go, "Oh, he's in a cycle.". The New Yorker may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. I would sayyou have a lot of energy, young man! They were the best and brightest at the game for a minute there, and I was in very rarified air and extremely good company for a moment there. Apart from the enduring work he crafted with the Heartbreakers, Lynch's stage and studio credits as a drummer also include the likes of Bob Dylan, Don Henley, Aretha Franklin, The Eurythmics, Roger McGuinn, Stevie Nicks, Del Shannon, T-Bone Burnett, and Warren Zevon. They tried to help him. How deep into your hole of shit do you need to go? Receive updates & special offers from Modern Drummer and our advertising partners. Youre at Pettys house at a Christmas party. Keith Moon, his drums sound like he's pushing washing machines over the hill! That's God's little way of telling you to collaborate. Heres why hes finally talking about it. Now which one is it? Saying, These are the things that feel incredibly good, that cant be duplicated. Thats a long run to have someone in your life one way or another., Campbell sent over the two recent albums he released with his longtime backing band the Dirty Knobs, 2020s Wreckless Abandon and 2022s External Combustion, and told him to learn the songs. Double Platinum Supporting Member. If anyone is going to think heroin is an option because they know my story of using heroin, I cant do this. And I just had to work with him and say, I think youre going to come off as a cautionary tale rather than a romantic tale. But I wanted to show that Tom Petty is a man who lived the bulk of his life in the album cycle. Date:circa 2000Interviewer: Lee FlierInterviewee: Stan LynchNotes: I found this when browsing an old capture of MusicPlayer.com from the Wayback Machine. Warren became vice-president of educational programs for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, "Stan. Other cats, you never get to them one way or another, they never go high and they never go low. And I watched really excited people get more excited, and it was just a big amplifier. He is from OH. And theres plenty more as Zanes, granted full access, reports on the creation of not just Pettys biggest records, Damn the Torpedoes, and Full Moon Fever, but his less appreciated gems, including 1999s Echo. Zanes is more than a fan: In 1987, his band, the Del Fuegos, opened gigs for their hero. Another intense moment in the show is Southern Accents. Midway through the tour, Campbell changed the lyrics from Theres a dream I keep having where my mama comes to me/And kneels over by the window and says a prayer for me to Theres a dream I keep having where my brother comes to me Its a change of just one word, but its had a profound impact on the crowd. So we're even! When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, Stan. They were very bright men. A lot of the times Id just be focused on what I was doing, but then Id turn around and be like, My God, its Lynch and hes fuckin smoking it! Stan Lynch . ), Drummer Talk 271 Agents and Managers 301, Recycled Percussion to perform in Super Bowl Pre-Show, Semisonic Drummer Slips on Ice, Breaks Hand. I don't think I have ever watched a drummer being interviewed that was so relatable. That's all it was about for me. That was 30 years ago. At the end of the process, as was their agreement, Zanes sent Petty the book, and then flew out to California to hear his judgment in person. He basically has no connection to that family back in Florida. I mean, for me it's as pathetic as it sounds, and it's true: this is my social life, what I do for a living. We got beyond it. When the director of Goodfellas decided to make Personality Crisis, a documentary about David Johansen and his alter ego, Buster Poindexter, he wanted it to be a family affair. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. You just say well, you coulda done, or you shoulda done, or would youand what you're really saying is "Why didn't you do it my way?" The guy's a fucking hardcore, he lives and eats it, he's destined to be who he is! I didnt need to be that way. And when the set lists and all that stuff went away, I was really lost. Lynchs run ends after a June 26 show in Aspen, Colorado. We got together and played at that and talked and were friendly, Petty said in 2007. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. Sep 18, 2019 #32 John DeChristopher DFO Veteran. This is a great joke I heard somebody say to me: it was somebody who's very successful who was producing records for somebody who was lesser knowna record that was probably never gonna sell, but it was a cool record. Stephen Lynch Science & Engineering Assoc, Chemistry. Margo Price Opens Up Like Never Before: It Feels Freeing When youve worked with bands like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers,Aretha Franklin, Stevie Nicks andthe Eagles, its not a strange thing to be interviewed. At one point, he said, Warren, Im going to have to answer questions about this for the rest of my life. And I said, I know.. Without doing any research, I couldn't tell you what erstwhile Heartbreaker Stan Lynch has been doing with his life for the past three decades. This is the first time Im talking about it in any depth.. He didnt ever get a trampoline out and do a backflip. And what it basically translated to was, "Fuckin' have some fun with this, wouldya?". They werent officially named the Heartbreakers until they came together in Los Angeles in 1976. I was on my fuckin knees, staring at the sky. And yelling and protesting. And then I was working with Rick Rubin on a session I think it. You have to make an honest statement like "I'm trying to sell! During a three-night stint at the Roxy in L.A., in the mid- eighties, Petty got in touch and invited the group to his place in Encino. I didnt need to be that way. If you still wanna stay in the biz, if you're still feeling useful. There are a lot of producers and labels that actually do that.I'm sure they do! The other obvious question. And George Harrison looks at me and says, Its Brian Jones, back from the dead. Of course, George knows enough what a man who wants an autograph looks like. Now there's a book in itself." Any book about the fifty-two-year-old Lynch would surely be an entertaining, fairly hilarious read. And I'm going [excitedly], "We're making 300 a week!" To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. God bless 'em! ', Related Also, I could never really close doors on people that were important in my past. Then today, as soon as his tour bus hit Philadelphia, it all began again with three more. So, how much is Stan Lynch worth at the age of 67 years old? Don Henley Called Stan Lynch As He Wanted To Record His New Album Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer and famous record producer Stan Lynch has worked with various bands and musicians, such as the Eagles, the Byrds, Bob Dylan, Stevie Nicks, and many more. But hes never really opened up about his split with Petty and the band. Also: recaps of my international speaking engagements and pop culture oral histories featuring beloved figures of books, music, TV, and movies who rarely if ever have been interviewed. Stan and I had some personal conflicts with family here and there, he says. Cohasset, Mass. John needs Paul. I'm not on Mount Rushmore and I don't think I should be! I get it. MD: What was your state of mind when you finally got the call that you were fired from the band? I remember when the other guys I was working with would say, "We're only making 300 a week!" He was the original drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers for 18 years until his departure in 1994. Such as Lynchs understated work on those Petty classics. He could have handled things better, and his mistakes were mainly related to miscommunication and immaturity. He ended up recording harmonies on the bands Warner Brothers dbut album, and he brought the Del Fuegos with him on tour. And hes just kind of patting this thing and Im thinking, This could go any one of ten thousand ways. If I ran a record label, probably one of the first things I'd do is drop half the roster. Probably best known for having been the longtime drummer and founding member of Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, Lynch has also toured the world with Bob Dylan, and written and produced songs for Don Henley, the Eagles, the Mavericks and many others. So I think a smart band leader has gotta be a good casting agent and a benevolent dictator. Petty is a rock star who is also a member of a band that has been together since the mid-seventies, and it is difficult to be one without undermining the other. Confirmed guests include Jim Keltner, JR Robinson, Rick Marotta, Stan Lynch, Gregg Bissonette, Lenny Castro, Luis Conte, David Garfield, Rich Mangicaro, Ross Garfield (aka Drum Doctor), Harry McCarthy . One day, Pettys manager, Tony Dimitriades, called Zanes out of the blue and said that Tom had read Dusty in Memphis and wanted to have dinner the next time Warren was in L.A. For Zanes, who had a new baby at home in Cleveland, It was all I could do not to leave right then. When they did meet, Petty said that the Dusty book had inspired a song, and that he wanted Zanes to come to his house to hear it. U2 to Play Las Vegas Residency Without Larry Mullen Jr. Travis Barker Dislocates Finger While Rehearsing for Blink-182 Tour, On The Beat with Dave Weckl: Talks Making the Singer Happy, Melkbellys James Wetzel on Time and Space, Quarantine Home Recording #3: Five Ways to Tank Your Drum Mix, Clementine on Channeling John Bonham in 12 Steps, Quarantine Home Recording #2: The Source Sound, Quarantine Home Recording: Dont Say Cant. Great guy! I learn from them.. It may be time to change channels. Out came Petty, walking his walk, carrying the manuscript. That's when you've hit the real essence of collaboration, where you know you've found your partner. If I look up and see Mike Campbells butt in front of my drum kit, its kind of like Im home., Opening night in Boulder was heavy on material from the two Dirty Knobs albums, but they also dipped into the Heartbreakers catalog with songs like Refugee, Runnin Down a Dream, Southern Accents, and You Wreck Me. As the days went by, they started sprinkling in additional oldies like Listen to Her Heart, When the Time Comes, and Casa Dega., Im still learning to be a singer, says Campbell. But I don't know if you've jumped through enough hoops and had enough discipline to make a record worth listening to unless you are Jimi Hendrix. -Liberty DeVitto Hewitt2 Senior Member Sep 15, 2020 #2 His parts fit those TP songs so well. Now what? ( 1955-05-21) May 21, 1955 (age 67) Cincinnati, Ohio, United States. Among his more pointed criticisms concern the song "Stop Draggin' My Heart. When hes telling the story about how his father beat the shit out of him at age five, its hard not to feel something., I cant pretend to know everything that was going through his mind in telling me these things, Zanes added. He was the original drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers for 18 years until his departure in 1994. I couldn't believe that I was the odd man out. That was probably part of the charm was that I didn't know, and I think the very thing that used to be charming became a burden to [the Heartbreakers]. Stan was the lone extrovert in this band of introverts. I was playing way too much, trying way too hard. When somebody's on a bender you don't yell at 'em. It wasn't a valid thing, there was no business to back me up on that. [laughter] That's a totally appropriate description of my career at times! A totally different sound, yet completely him., Zanes enrolled in Loyola and spent the next twelve years in universities, eventually getting a Ph.D. from Rochester University in Cultural Studies. The presence of a Beatle is a thick presence. 79.6 KB Views: 141. Youll know it when you know it. Sure enough, we went back to the studio and we got two tracks that night. For Zanes, the tour should have been heaven on earth. I have a proposition for you, said Campbell, who was on the verge of kicking off his first-ever solo tour, but was going to be without regular drummer Matt Laug for a period in the spring and summer when he had commitments in Europe with Italian superstar Vasco Rossi. Stan Lynch Net Worth. Then I heard him at a gig talking to a guy in another band. All rights reserved. Drummer, producer and songwriter Stan Lynch's career reads like a rock'n'roll fairy tale: from 1975 to 1994, as a founding member of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Lynch toured around the world, enjoyed a string of hit records, and gained high acclaim as a drummer's drummer among his peers. Im not really there emotionally, he says. And it hasn't taken me very seriously. Heartbreakers Howie Epstein was cut loose because of his heroin addiction. What do you do if you've had a long run of success and then your music goes out of style with the public taste, your sales are flagging, and there is a lot of pressure from people to change. Lets get back to the ground rules for this book. In what ways do you think that the business is easier, and in what ways do you think it's harder for artists starting out now than it was when you started?Well it's easier because it's an accepted form of livelihood. 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